
Thomas asks…
Do mormons think black people are being punished by god?
And could a black person join the priesthood and become a prophet.

Gossip Queen answers:
The only thing black people are being “punished” by are other people.
Because, well, people are stupid.

Mandy asks…
Why is it ok to say bad stuff about mormons, but not blacks or jews?
don isum got crucified for saying one comment about blacks, and will smith got crap for saying something supposedly disrespectful to jews. those are only two examples of many. i am not racist- i hate it- but it bothers me how people can say whatever about mormons and no one cares

Gossip Queen answers:
Don’t let it get to you and don’t be concerned about whether or not your receiving the appropriate amount of discrimination as compared to other groups.
There are always going to be people ready to say bad stuff about your religion, sex, sexuality, race, status and even smoking habits!
Just learn from the hate you feel, don’t spread it and be happy with who you are.

Linda asks…
Is it true that Mormons still think it was justified to keep blacks from temporarily having the priesthood?
Of course the Mormon church now allows all races to have it but it is my understanding they still believe God told Brigham Young blacks couldn’t have it and until 1978 it was justified to keep them from having it because that is what God wanted at that time.
In other words, modern day Mormons don’t think the prophets did anything wrong when it came to keeping blacks from holding the priesthood.
Is this correct?

Gossip Queen answers:
Yeah, pretty much.

Charles asks…
Why aren’t gays protesting blacks/latinos in California and going after Mormons so heavily?
The exit poll results show that blacks and latinos overwhelmingly supported protecting marriage as a union between a man and a woman, with whites about even. So why are the gay protestors only going after white churches and Mormons instead of going after black churches and more black/latino organizations?
I’d really like to get an answer. Blacks voted something like 80% for prop 8, so why don’t those opposed to prop 8 go out and attack blacks for discrimination?

Gossip Queen answers:
Because blacka and latinos stand up to threats , most Mormons and churchogoers are non violent people, blacks and latinos fight back when attacked .

George asks…
Mormons! Now accepting blacks! Is not this great!?
The reason why I am black is because I am a descended from Cain (the guy who killed his brother Abel) according to Mormons and I am cursed with black skin because of Cain!
There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantages… The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits (Doctrines of Salvation, 1:61, 66; emphasis added).–Joseph Fielding Smith, tenth President and Prophet.
1 Nephi 12:23 (prophecy of the Lamanites) ” became a dark, and loathsome, and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations.”
Alma 3:6 “And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion.”
Mormon 5:15 (prophecy about the Lamanites) “for this people shall be scattered, and shall become a dark, a filthy, and a loathsome people, beyond the description of that which EVER hath been amongst us. . . .”
Moses 7:22 “.for the seed of Cain were black and had not place among them.”
But now! Recently I have learned that the curse has been broken! Mormons are now accepting blacks!
How do you feel about this?
Lol actually I think this^ is hilarious…I do not think I am black because I am cursed. But there are some who believe this.
@ Anon: I hate to inform but I am an African American girl. I think this is so funny! I don’t think none of this is true I am a christian but NOT mormon
@ Anon…sigh….if your right then I am a white girl in a black girls body…Michael Jackson in reverse….and I just so happen to have black parents How did THAT happen??

Gossip Queen answers:
Oh, Jason G., that’s an old argument against the Book of Mormon and it’s a great big fail. If you knew anything about the Bible, you’d know that the books are not all in chronological order and those verses are referring to someone altering the words that prophet had just written about that particular book. Not the bible as a whole, sweetie. The bible was not a book passed down from one prophet to the next; it was compiled much, much later on. So, if you want to use those verses against any other words added to the bible AFTER the date of those said verses then that’s great, because that would make a whole bunch of the bible false according to your argument. Hate to break it to ya.
Now…. Mormons now accepting blacks??? What??? You’re mislead too, sweetie. Who ever said that the darkened skin was specifically referring to African Americans? No one and certainly no one in the Mormon church. Did you ever stop and think that the people in the Book of Mormon were descendents from Jerusalem and that Middle Easterners also have very dark skin? No, I guess you wouldn’t use your brain like that. You just want anything you can get your hands on to deface the LDS church without so much as researching from legitimate resources.
You can say it all you want. It’s FACT that Mormons do not believe that African Americans are a cursed people. Gimme a break. It seems YOU are the one being racist. And just to clarify, Joseph Smith was opposed to slavery.

Lizzie asks…
how do black mormons who died before 1977-78 receive the priesthood and temple rites?

Gossip Queen answers:
Thank you for the question mohonri moriancumer. There are more things that are done in the Temples than just baptisms for the dead, and that is one of them. The temples are on earth to help prepare us in all things to stand before our Maker and be told, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.”
Temples are also built in part to provide a way for all to be put on equal grounds before God. For example in the scriptures we are told that all must be baptized to be able to get into heaven. However there have been countless millions, possibly even billions, of people who have walked this Earth who have never had the opportunity to even hear about the idea of baptism let alone the Lord they are to be baptized in the name of. So If God is a just and merciful God, and if God is the same yesterday, today and forever, how then can he justifiably hold everyone who has never had an opportunity to get baptized to that commandment to be able to get into heaven?
The answer is simple. He provided a way for them to hear, and then He commanded us to perform baptisms on behalf of those who have already passed on so that they will then have the opportunity to choose whether or not they want to accept that baptism. They then have been given the same opportunity that we have and God can then judge them by the same standards He gave to everyone and still be just. The same idea is true of the Priesthood.
I hope that helps.

Ruth asks…
Mormons: Black people were to atone for Cain’s sin?
One Mormon in here indicated that Jesus sacrifice did not invalidate the curse on Cain’s posterity because that curse came from the Father.
I found that interesting since the curse on Adam (for which Jesus had been sent to redeem us from) was also from the Father.
But nevermind that… how then, if JESUS atonement and the forgiveness of sin did not extend to include Cain’s sin and black people’s penalty for it. How then was Cain’s sin handled without atonement, without any kind of sacrifice.
That being said, black people had, according to Mormon doctrine thus suffered the penalty for Cain’s sin for many thousands of years. Then in 1978 a revelation (not an act of forgiveness, not atonement) was made that somehow made Black people able to receive all the blessings… especially the most important one of no longer being cut off from God.
@ WitnessofJesus – I would love to hear what black people reading your comments have to say. I mean wow… black people were not valiant in a “pre-existence” they were also punished through ham, etc. Amazing, and this is still not racist (even though it sounds almost the same as the Baptists and Methodists that came with this stuff 100 years before)
@ SLCBTF – maybe you can talk to WitnessofJesus and you two can clear it up.

Gossip Queen answers:
“Our Rabbis taught: Three copulated in the ark, and they were all punished — the dog, the raven, and Ham. The dog was doomed to be tied, the raven expectorates [his seed into his mate's mouth]. And Ham was smitten in his skin (from him descended Cush (the negro) who is black-skinned.).
Sanhedrin 108b
http://halakhah.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_108.html
The Babylonian Talmud, the highest authority in Orthodox Judaism

Laura asks…
A question for black mormons?
I read that mormons believe that being black was the result of being indifferent in the dispute of Jesus and Lucifer over freedom of choice and that being a good mormon would lead to the lightening of a black mormon’s skin. My question being do you believe this and if so does this make you feel you’re color or race makes you inferior to white mormons? Not judging, just curious.

Gossip Queen answers:
A big part of my leaving the LDS church is these statements and teachings.
Note, some LDS have not heard all the quotes.
About skin getting whiter it wasSPENCER W. KIMBALL HERE..Half way down, talkiing about indian converts.
Http://nowscape.com/mormon/negro.htm
No matter how you look at it, racism is awful, but the Mormon church has taken it to a new level.
What makes Mormon church’s racism so awful are the following two points.
1. They justified racism in the name of God.
2. They still refuse to apologize.
(they point the finger at other racist history)
Even the Southern Baptist church (which was founded on racism) has apologized. Http://www.allianceofbaptists.org/racism_statement.htm
QUOTES…
In the Mormon Sunday School publication, Juvenile Instructor, the following statement appeared:
We will first inquire into the results of the approbation or displeasure of God upon a people, starting with the belief that a black skin is a mark of the curse of Heaven placed upon some portions of mankind. Some, however, will argue that a black skin is not a curse, nor a white skin a blessing. In fact, some have been so foolish as to believe and say that a black skin is a blessing, and that the negro is the finest type of a perfect man that exists on the earth; but to us such teachings are foolishness.
We understand that when God made man in his own image and pronounced him very good, that he made him white. We have no record of any of God’s favored servants being of a black race…every angel who ever brought a message of God’s mercy to man was beautiful to look upon, clad in the purest white and with a countenance bright as the noonday sun. (Juvenile Instructor, Vol. 3, page 157, October 15, 1868)
“Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness he became the father of an inferior race.”
-Joseph Fielding Smith, The Way to Perfection, p. 101
“It was well understood by the early elders of the Church that the mark which was placed on Cain and which his posterity inherited was the black skin. The Book of Moses informs us that Cain and his descendants were black.”
-Joseph Fielding Smith, The Way to Perfection, p. 107
“According to Brigham Young, Joseph Smith classified these people as “The seed of Cain. Young said the “Joseph Smith had declared that the Negroes were not neutral in heaven for all the spirits took sides, but `the posterity of Cain are black because he (Cain) committed murder. He killed Abel and God set a mark upon his posterity.”
-Joseph Fielding Smith, The Improvement Era, …
WHY BLACK SKIN???
“There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantage. The reason is that we once had an estate before we came here, and were obedient, more or less, to the laws that were given us there. Those who were faithful in all things there received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less…. There were no neutrals in the war in heaven. All took sides either with Christ or with Satan. Every man had his agency there, and men receive rewards here based upon their actions there, just as they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body. The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits.”
Joseph Fielding SmithDoctrines of Salvation, Vol.1, pages 66-67
I believe there is record of only two blacks being ordained to the mormon priesthood (PH) pre 1978, one was Elijah Abel, and Abel’s PH was eventually suspended, in Smith’s lifetime.
The seeds of the black PH ban were laid by Joseph Smith. Young and many other mormon leaders kept up the racism and crazy teachings about it.
SEE..
Http://www.christiandefense.org/mor_black.htm

Paul asks…
Why do mormons, hispanics, asians and blacks pay more for electricity in California than most?
Statistically these groups pay more per kilowatt in California than the average household.
According some of the latest surveys.

Gossip Queen answers:
I don’t know you source..but maybe just maybe because much of these people ‘statistically’ are poor or working lower middle class and sometimes rent or own older homes..So these homes have bad insulation or older appliances and isn’t as energy efficient, as some old white rich woman in her brand new million dollar home..and light companys will charge you more if you use a lot
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